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What My Nose Knows
 

Ars Draconis

I'm trying out two Ars Draconis scents this week -- Dance of Death today and Twilight tomorrow. The Ars Draconis line lets me indulge my morbid side a bit. Though, I really have to wonder what I'll say if anyone asks what I'm wearing today. I think I'll wimp out and just give the notes.
taramarie

taramarie

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Nia's Blog
 

School time approaches.

I start school Friday next week. Today I have picked up the school's materials for the month.   Reading the materials: Loralei DONE. Unit 55: Bordello DONE Unit 56: Delight. DONE Unit 57: Forbidden Fruit DONE Unit 58: The Lady of Shalott Unit 59: Les Bijoux.   And I'm going to do caligraphy exercises. Phew! I'll reward myself with Lolita if I complete a couple of pages every day.   The week didn't go very well
Nia

Nia

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this and that from Antaria
 

Time with my Pigs

Yesterday I spent a lot of time with my pigs. I cleaned their cage and usually they are in an enclosure I built in their room or our living room and after that I bring them back to their cage.   Yesterday I had a little bit more time (sweety was just taking a nap) so I cleaned the cage and after that I sat myself in the enclosure. Maus came directly to my fingers - she still thinks that they are eatable. But I was able to use my fingers to lure her onto my lab Even Pebbles - the shyest of the 4 - came closer, after a while she found out that it is nice to sit next to my leg because its warm there. Wittgenstein enjoyed it when I caressed him under the chin - he can make such a looooong neck. Willow was very greedy - she was choking 3 times on her carrot. A terrible noise. 3 of the 4 decided that my toes are eatable - I disagreed.   It was really nice sitting there with them.   In the end Maus was a bit nerved because I had to comb her - she's a US-teddy and has scalls - she made it clear that the comb is not her friend and that she is pretty quick.   Wittgenstein, Willow and Maus gained weight, only Pebbles lost about 18gr. But I think 18gr is not that much so I'm not worried.
Antaria

Antaria

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this and that from Antaria
 

Snake Oil

Okay, a new category!   Today I tried Snake Oil again. I got it in February, I think and I applied it once. Conclusion: Boring. A not so perfect Van Van. I decided to let it age because a lot of you say that it's great aged. New Conclusion: Not as great as Blood Amber, but nice. Quite and not too striking, but nice. A bit like candy ... sweet but not too sweet. I think I will buy a big bottle of it someday. Will have to buy a bit BPAL anyway ... I think twice a year I am allowed to do so. Perhaps I wait for the Jule-scents ...
Antaria

Antaria

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Abstract Associations
 

Crypt Queen

As sweet as death, as deep as the grave: pomegranate, raspberry, gardenia, plum, and rose with patchouli, black pepper, rose musk, and a hint of blood accord.   Reviewed 09/09/2007   I am really torn about this one. I absolutely love the subtle florals and juicy, dark berries. In the bottle, it is absolutely perfect. But on my skin there is an odd smell that comes out, I'm not sure what it is but it makes my nose tickle like a whiff of Vicks Vap-o-rub does. Maybe the pepper? It's not horribly strong but it doesn't fade away. I'm going to give it a few more tries and see how it does around other people, and if they notice that same weird scent when I wear it I may try aging it for a while before trying again.
Rovylern

Rovylern

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Forum Updates and News
 

Upcoming downtime

We're going to be doing a bunch of updates in the next two weeks. The last I heard, the forum's going to be down on SATURDAY, Sept 15, for a period of 12-36 hours (depending on how long it takes us to verify and debug).     Most of the updates are pretty boring and won't effect you overly much, but there's one big one: we're implementing a brand new the search engine for the forum. It's faster, allows us to let you search for one or two character things (though we've forced it to require at least two characters), better results, and in the coming weeks, should be querying the topic descriptions along with the titles. Also, right now, it's just set up for the forum itself, but it's got the capability to be integrated with the upcoming wiki and our blogs as well, which is pretty cool.
ipb

ipb

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giant squid!
 

wanderlust...

So I have officially, with the exception of Havana (I am going to get an imp in my next order, I swear!), I have tried every scent in the Wanderlust category!   It's my first GC category that I've tried everything in....scary....   Now if only I could review the entire category- I was so bad at keeping track of those things when I first started wearing BPAL.   Anyway, back to work! Only 8 days until this concert series I have to play in (which I was notified of 10 days in advance- argh! why can't they be organized?), and there is lots to be done....
euterpe414

euterpe414

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Whiskers and Whispers
 

The patter of tiny paws.

It's been ages since I've written in here huh?   But I need to announce the arrival of two darling new additions to the family...my long awaited new kittens, Serafina and Smurfette. I got them via a shelter from someone who wanted to sell his kittens-and I was not expecting the almost dangerous level of CUTE I saw when I met the kittens. it was so hard choosing two kittens from a litter of six adorable little fluffy bundles of joy. I ended up choosing eventually and I think I chose well-the kitties are so sweet and playful and are always chasing each other and jumping about and just doing the sort of cute kitten stuff that makes me all wobbly inside. Sera is the grown up one with more black than white on her face, and she is also the more mature and and clever kitty, whilst Smurfette is the energetic, playful, mischevious little rogue who has one eye in black fur and the other in white, almost like an eyepatch (mum calls her the little pirate). I am so pleased to have these wonderful darlings in my life-I haven't been this happy in ages!   I will post pics asap!
PurringPulsar

PurringPulsar

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Forspecial Plate's Blog
 

Ginger

Ginger is a hit-or-miss note for me. I love Shub-Niggurath, but I don't like the ginger note in Saw Scaled Viper and War. I like Sudha Segara, but I don't love it, and I'm not sure I can smell the ginger in it. It smells more like sparkly lemon and lime to me. I have a wee sample of ginger essential oil from Nature's Gift, and I really like how it smells. Oh and I do like Pumpkin Queen, but I don't love it (wait.....PQ does have ginger, doesn't it?).   I was reading reviews for Shub-Niggurath and couldn't believe all the variations people are smelling. I don't smell lemon at all when I wear it. And were there really different 'versions' of Shub? I always wonder if that's true or if it's just people's different perceptions of the same scent. I have a decant of pre-resurrection Shub, and also a bottle of the resurrected Shub, and they smell exactly alike to me. Of course, I don't know how old the decant is.
forspecial_plate

forspecial_plate

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this and that from Antaria
 

Angry an undecided the 3rd

Okay, I am angry now ... the managed to restore a part of my page! With SCC-file (edit: ooooops! CSS, of course!) and all! But they wrote that they are working for a new page that will appear in the end of September. Anyway ... I hope they don't use my css! I know that I won't be able to tell them that they are not allowed to do so, but I'd like to!   Anyway, they could have make an own design for this temporal page! And if it was only white, so what?? But to use my design without asking me is not okay - at least I think so!   They are *put in some terrible words in here*!
Antaria

Antaria

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this and that from Antaria
 

Piggies

My 4 guinea pigs make me happy every day. I stand up in the morning, go into the bathroom and after that in their room - before I even open the door they are already calling out for me - or better: For food.   When I open the door they start to sit up and beg - against the cage-fence (I'll be so happy when we finish our biiiiig guinea cage with glass), pushing each other away, squeaking so loud that I wonder how my partner can sleep. Even our smallest, now 7 1/2 weeks old, starts to do it and shows her sweet little belly. I call it "The Belly-Parade"   Then I take the bag with the hay and this sound makes them go crazy. They start dashing through the cage, sometimes clashing to each other, bouncing like silly (in German it's called poppcorning) and squeaking even louder. It is so wonderful to watch. And when it start to trickle the hay down on them they jump more and more ... you really could think they don't get any hay for years - in fact they get it 3 times a day, sometimes more often when they eat it fast.   In the end there is a big mountain of hay in the cage and - it's moving! Because Maus - the little one - crawl ito the hay and starts going here and there while eating it ... after 5 minutes there is no mountain left, it's all bulldozed down by the 4 pigs.     I always loved my pets but I never thought that guinea pigs would be that great
Antaria

Antaria

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this and that from Antaria
 

I love my bed

I always loved my bed - sometimes I start to giggle when I go to bed because I'm just so happy about my bed. Then I think "Everybody should have such a bed".   A week ago I decided that it was time for a bed-change. Since my Sweetheart and I moved together we had a self-made bed because he had his mattress and I had mine, his was to hard for me (but we both could fit in it if we have to) and mine was too small for us both and too soft for him. So each of us kept the own mattress and we built a base where they both fit. So we had a really huge bed - but it was not what we wanted. We have been dreaming about a waterbed since we knew each other and last Friday we finally bought one.   And now I even love my bed more than before! It is wonderful even if the fine-tuning is not perfect yet - I'm still thinking that the wateramount is not perfect but I don't know if I need more or less water. We can change the slow-down (or how it might be called in English) ourselfes when we want and I guess I want it with less slow-down.   It is so nice to lie down in this wonderful bed, nothing aches and it is warm ... the only thing I don't like is the venyl-scent but it will go away, I think. And you can counteract it by applying BPAL before goinig to sleep. Unfortunately I forget that very often and then I am too tired to go and get some - I should place an imp beside the bed ... good idea.   Most of the time at work I think about my bed ... and how wonderful it would be to go to slepp right now. Well, it is nice if you are happy about your bed every day - but it makes it very hard to leave it in the morning.
Antaria

Antaria

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Diplomatka
 

The Third Worst Day of My Life

There is a reason why you never hear the words “dentist” and “Africa” in the same sentence. There are few places in the world where you would be better off letting that rotten root fester than actually seeking professional help and pretty much the whole continent (except for South Africa and one hospital in Nairobi) qualifies.   Let me start from the beginning: about a month and a half ago, I was lying on the couch one Sunday night, watching Dr. Phil, drinking a St. Georges and eating popcorn when I broke the back off one of my lower front teeth (which was cracked during a raspberry verenyi incident in 2004) by biting down on a kernel. Since I had been medevaced back to my cute little Tennessean dentist, Dr. Gregory, less than a month before for an abscessed tooth, I had little choice but to suck it up and visit a dentist in town.   During the said abscessed tooth episode, which involved a lot of swelling, pain and visits to the dickhead South Asian dentist Dr. Raina (yeah, that’s right, I used your real name) who withheld information about treatment options, I was advised by an American working for a Christian aid agency about a Chinese dentist on Bole Road who did good work. Crumpled in my chair during the food security workshop from the pain, I decided I had nothing to lose by visiting Dr. Ling. Although she could do nothing to help me with my abscessed tooth except pull it (since a root canal had already been done) or “make a little window” to clean the roots by drilling into my jaw, she decided it was in everyone’s best interest to send me back to Dr. Gregory and promptly filled out my insurance paperwork (which Dr. Dickhead Raina refused to do).   This episode solidified the bond between me and Dr. Ling. Inside I swore that if any other dental problem arose I would go to her.   Back to the broken tooth—in August I went to see Dr. Ling who drilled down my two front teeth to little nubs before I knew what was happening or was able to ask for anesthesia. She then made impressions of my teeth, put in temporary (but nice looking) caps, and informed me that my new ceramic teeth would be back from China in a month. Those teeth came in last week and were installed. They looked good, but were a little too big. Dr. Ling told me to wait a week and see if I still thought they were too big and she would sand them down. That visit took place today.   This morning I got up, threw on some jeans and got in the car to Bole. By 9:00 Dr. Ling had ground down the teeth and I was on my way. Looking in the rearview mirror, I realized a mistake had been made—there was a considerable gap between where my top and bottom teeth met in front. I thought about it for a while, got ready and went into the office. By 11:00 I was distraught. Here I had fucked up the only front teeth I would ever have-- I went back to Dr. Ling. She was reassuring, we would fix it, she told me. The next hour was the worst, and nearly the most painful, of my life.   I have a high pain threshold: I have suffered peptic ulcers, burst ovarian cysts, and dry sockets and taken them all like a Pionerka. Something about this visit today made me squeal like a five year old. It took Dr. Ling about 35 minutes to drill the teeth, crack the ceramic, reassure me, shoot me up with anesthesia, and do some more drilling. I screamed, I cried, I squirmed, I bled. I was ashamed of myself for acting like such a big baby. I was mad because I was having this done in East Africa instead of East Tennessee. After what seemed like an eternity, Dr. Ling took impressions and put in temporary caps. I decided there was no way I could work for the rest of the day and packed it up to come home. Here at my dining room table, four hours later, my jaw and teeth are still aching. The pain and the humiliation of the whole day ranks only behind the riots in 2006 and losing my job three years ago. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Never see a dentist in Africa, NEVER.   Nothing left to do but light up a sheesha and have some wine.
Confection

Confection

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this and that from Antaria
 

Fish

I'm still thhinking about what fish to put in our little aquarium ... it is only 54l big so there is not a lot of choice. I'd love to have Guppys - but someone who is living together with me thinks that they are tacky.   The tank is already a few years old an there is only one fish left in it ... a Characiformes ... don't find the proper English name for it. And as nice they have been - they are colourless. Now I want something bright ... like Guppys or a Betta.   I think I have to reconsider how is in charge for the tabk. Till now it was my partners job because it was his tank. Well, hie care may be the reason why there is only one fish left. I mean, the other were several years old, but I geuess that's not why they are dead by now. So perhaps I should care for it - then all the pet would be in my hands. The guinea pigs, the ants and the fishes ... well ... yes, I guess that would be best.   If I only had time, I would start cleaning up the tank today ...
Antaria

Antaria

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this and that from Antaria
 

Angry an undecided the 2nd

So I was in the choir yesterday and it was okay. I behaved as if everything would be fine and I guess that's what bothered one Lady, lets call her Tad. She was once the "leader" of our choir. I never liked her, she wants to be in the spot light all the time. We are approx. 100 singers and she was the conductor. She always made such a show herself as if she didn't want the audience to listen to us but to look at her. Anyway, she was sitting next to me, one empty chair between us because she is in a different pitch of voice than I am.   After our warmup someone must have told her that I erased the old homepage - I heared "What?? And now we have none? So close to our big concert?" - and than she went one row back and stayed there for the rest of the rehersal ... guess it was a sign for her disapproval. I have to say: I enjoyed it. And their fault - should have waited till the concert is over and kick me out then   And nothing more happened ... I hope it stays that way - if they announce that somebody new is in charge for the homepage by now they should not mention the reason for the change - if they do and it is not the truth I'll have to stand up and say how it really was and I don't want to do that. I'm terribly afraid of speaking to so many people. But I'll do it if I have to!   But I am proud that I went there and that I smiled and behaved as if it would not bother me how they treated me. Guess that makes people like Tad really angry ...
Antaria

Antaria

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this and that from Antaria
 

Update

After my holidays I had an unsettling time.   For one we bought a new guinea pig becauce one of the others died before my holidays. It was the first guinea pig of mine that died and it was a shock ... well ... anyway, the new one - Maus (=mice) - is wonderful but had mite. Had to go to the vet with her. After that I got ill - so my partner. Not so nice, especially if you have a baby pig that you want to cuddle and your not allowed because it could be infected. And because it is a summer-flu it takes really long to go away.   My partner had problems at work rightaway after the holidays, so he es trying to stay calm there and search a new job. Right now it seems that he has got the possibility to get a really nice job!   At my department at work we had to say goodbye to a really nice secretary and after 2 weeks of a vacant office we got a new one. She seems nice, is - I guess 55 years old - and I think I like her - but she will mean lots of works for me ... I mean, yesterday she came in to sak me how to write an email ... öhm ... you know, where to click, what to do.   And then the final decision: Enough with our selfmade bed - it was good but now it is time that we buy what we always wanted: A waterbed. So since Sunday we are sleeping in a waterbed. The wateramount is not quite perfect, but I guess thats only a question of time.   And now the choir-thing - I am somehow tired. Well and of course I want to go home only to sleep in the new bed. It is sooooo wonderful!
Antaria

Antaria

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this and that from Antaria
 

Angry and undecided

I copy again from the "How are you feeling"-thread ... I really should stop that.   I was in charge for the homepage of my choir ... I waited for 2 years for new information to put on the page, asked several times different people to give me something because I was not in charge for the content, they told me they would provide me with everything.   Well, then I had holidays and received a mail with content. But of course I would not update the page while I am abroad and in holydays! I came back and I took approx. a week when I got ill. Almost 2 weeks went by till I was better again. In this time I got 4 other mails with content. And on Monday I got a call "do you still want to do that, we need the update now" - so I told them I would do it till Wed. I managed to finish the update yesterday morning - and in the afternoon they called and told me that they are not willing to let me do it anymore (have to say that I never wanted to do it ... they begged me and in the end I was okay with it).   Well ... because the main work was the design, I felt really ... silly. They let me do the work an the nice copy and paste stuff would be okay for them - of course if they update the page, they would put their name under the page. So I erased the page to "protect" my design. That may be childish, but I think it is the right way to do it ...   Only point: It keeps bugging me. I hate stuff like this. And today is choir again and I guess I'll have a hard time ... and I am sensitive, I'm afraid they say something and I start to cry in front of all these people ... I'd love to stay at home but I guess that would make it worst, wouldn't it?
Antaria

Antaria

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a stargirl's addiction
 

BPAL Wishlist

(mostly for my own reference ) last updated: 21 June 2013   ISO (bottles preferable, will take imps though!)     Black Phoenix Trading Post Fee   Knock-a-Dolly atmo spray Red Lantern atmo spray   Prototypes Maiden v7   "a girl can dream..." Voodoo Queen Midwinters Eve 2005 Snow White 2005 Senelion Snake Charmer (original) Silver-Haired Bat   Limited Editions: The Tears of Lilith Expressive Head O Daughter Of Death and Priapus Rapunzel in Ballpoint The Queens Salon Copper Phoenix Sweet Life (Space 15twenty exclusive) Hanami   Neil Gaiman: Jasmine Cottage Pepper The East   Carnaval Diabolique: Kataniya, The Clockwork Woman Eshe, A Vision Of Life-In-Death   Twilight Alchemy Lab White Light   The Salon: Schlafende Baigneuse Silence   General Catalogue:   Would always love more of Snake Oil Snake Charmer (Res or original) Hellion v2     Work in progress... check back again soon  
crushedstars

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Shellhell - Hermetically Sealed
 

Catch UP! What happened when I went AWOL for 9 months!

Quite a few of you have been wondering what happened to me during my 9 mos. of absence (and no - I did not have a baby! ), and I have promised to blog it. I have to be honest and say that I had blogged a whole novel and as I read it I thought "TMI - WAY MUCH!!!" I erased all of it t and decided to just put it down as simply stated without every single gory detail   As most of you well know, I have a rare disorder that is slowly shutting down my digestive system. If you read below, you will know that I have had my gallbladder and colon removed due to their ceased function.(I have also had surgeries to repair a small bowel obstruction, perferated bowel; I have also had hysterectomy, appendectomy and many other surgeries as well) My stomach now taking 4-5x longer to digest than normal, and I have esophageal spasms and difficulty swallowing. To put it simply my digestive system is SNAFU.   In late Autumn of last year, the pain from this problem began to escalate and slowly became uncontrollable. We barely made it out of town to spend Christmas with my 2 sons, my daughter in law - my oldest son's wife, and of course my adorable grandson - it was his first Christmas!! By the time we arrive home the pain was so intense that I had to be hospitalized to gain control of it. For the next several months I was disabled by the enormous constant pain - even with a huge arsenal of pain medication!! Sometimes it was easier just to sedate me than try more pain meds. If I had to go to emergency or to the doctors, I went in my pj's. I could hardly make it to the bathroom let alone shower on a regualr basis or even communicate to my close friends on this forum. Just getting out of bed was a huge thing and it was so painful. I was also nauseated most of the time.   As July rolled around, I was at my Dr.s for a check up. He put me on a new medication and I started tapering off the huge amounts of pain killers. Needless to say, today, I am feeling much better and it is easier to deal with my pain. I have completely quit 2 of the pain meds I was on and the new perscription (Metformin for Insulin Resistance) has really given me an abundance of energy. I still have debilitating pain but I feel better equipped mentally to handle it. I have only had to reach for the pain killer prescribed for break thru pain twice in the last month. And, No hospital visits either!!! As I made my way back to the forum, I was completely overwhelmed by pms waiting for me - people sending their love and support and wishing me well. I want to thank everyone who wrote me and worried about me while I was AWOL and I want to thank all of you who have welcomed me back with love and friendship. This is truly a forum full of lovely caring people. Thank you!!!   NEXT BLOG: Latest pictures of the grandson!!!
Rhowan

Rhowan

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Ahania's Blog
 

More Switch Witch Help- soaps!

Amazon: thanks to the marvelous cordia, I was reminded how to make a link to my amazon wishlist! Yay!   Widdersuds: Yeah, this is a huge list, but so many sound good! Besides, this way, if you decided to order me something from them, you'll be sure of finding something that you want to smell for yourself. Bubble bath, shower gel, bath salts, soap bars, deoderant, solid perfume... they all sound good. (Just not the emu oil, please.)   Alegria Amaretto Tiramisu Apple Cobbler Delight Arabian Spice Asian Plum Bartlett & Basil Beyond Paradise Bermuda Sands Black Amber And Lavender Black Orchid And White Lily Blackberry Blueberry Blood Orange Buttercream and Snickerdoodle Basil Lime Black Currant Rose Bermuda Triangle Black Cherry Black Magic Black Currant Cannoli di Albicocca Caravan Spice Cashmeran Carmelized Pralines Carrot Cake Cranberry Dark Chocolate Solstice (Godiva Type) Fig Gingerlily Got Milk? Grannies Pumpkin Cookies Guinefyr's Tryst Hawaiian Black Heavenly Blue Lotus Jade Mayan Gold Moonlight Musk Nile Queen Night Spirit™ Pineapple Kiawe Pumpkin Harvest Stormwatch Snow Queen™ Turkish Mocha Tahitian Gardenia (Tiare)   Anubis Hathor Nefertum Renenutet Sekhmet Thoth   Anubis- Eternal Version     Villainess: Contrary Crushed Decadence Embargo Jade Krakatoa Shanghaied Silk and Cyanide
Ahania

Ahania

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What My Nose Knows
 

Chasing the Dragons

The Ars Draconis line has been full of surprises. The first one I tried was a frimp of Dragon's Musk back in June. I didn't think I'd like it since I'm picky about musk, but I love it. Dragon's Blood smells like plumeria, which I was not expecting. Dragon's Milk burned, and since I'm not sensitive to DB, honey, or vanilla, I was definitely not expecting that either. I think it must have clove in it, or something smiliar that's not listed.
taramarie

taramarie

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Forspecial Plate's Blog
 

for Bonnie (my stepmom)

Okay, I found the gardenia thread. I'm adding Euphrosyne to the list, and maybe Pele. I absolutely cannot imagine giving my stepmom something called The Sacred Whore of Babylon, though. Maybe a decant with just 'Babylon' on the label. I wonder....if she ended up liking it, and I told her what it's called, would she still wear it?
forspecial_plate

forspecial_plate

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Forspecial Plate's Blog
 

my first post!

I'm starting this because I have 2 livejournal accounts, but I really don't participate in the bpal communities on lj. I used to be a member of a couple of them, but decided that my lj is not the place for my bpal trading. I still write about bpal stuff but I get the feeling that many people on my friends list probably don't care about bpal. So here I am.   Friday I had dinner with my dad and stepmom, and told them a little bit about my perfume obsession. Actually, I told them about Fabienne and Possets. They both expressed interest, and they might go to a Final Friday where Fabienne opens her studio to the public (along with many other artists at the Pendleton Art Center). My point, and I do have one, is that I would like to make lists of imp packs for my dad and stepmom, sort of a bpal introductory selection of scents. My stepmom says she likes gardenia, so I did a search on the lab's site and came up with a few possibilities. The one that stuck out most was Le Serpent Qui Danse. I think she might like Antique Lace, although I myself have never tried it. She works for Clinique and would probably like the more traditional-smelling bpal perfumes, at least to start out. Other than that I have no idea what her tastes might be, so I'd like to come up with a range of styles for her to try.   As for my dad, I would go for more masculine blends, obviously. The first one I thought of was Casanova. Maybe Whitechapel, Calico Jack, possibly Dracul. For both of them I'm going to stay away from limited edition scents, so in case they end up loving a particular scent we can definitely get more. That said, I would probably let them try some of my LE's, particularly from Carnaval Diabolique. Bonnie (my stepmom) might possibly like Midnight On The Midway, and heck, my dad could like it too (I love it, and I'm a guy).   So for the next couple months I'll be keeping my eyes open for possibilities, and I think there are at least a couple recommendation discussions I'm going to peruse also.
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