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Reminder about Paypal fees in the swapping forums

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In accordance to PayPal policies, we do not allow sellers to pass along paypal fees by adding a surcharge on top of an items sale price. (This includes required fees AND suggested donations.) Our price caps were already designed to have enough padding to them so that sellers could have some flexibility in deciding what expenses (initial shipping to you, decanting supplies, transaction fees, etc.) they could and could not tolerate taking on and building that into the price of the bottle and are more than generous enough to cover any burden of expense you might face by accepting PayPal as a form of payment.

 

We allow $2.50 over the cost of the bottle. The purchase price of the most expensive bottle typically sold, at $25, therefore has an allowed markup of 10%. The purchase price of the least expensive typically sold bottle, at $15, has an allowed markup of 16.7%. With Paypal fees being no more than 2.9%, there is at least 7.1% (and up to 13.7%, since there aren't many bottles from the era of $10.50-12.50 being sold) of "wiggle room" that takes into consideration things like the $0.30 transaction fee and the initial shipping to you.

 

Violations of the Paypal fee policy will result in the same consequences as violating the topic bumping policy. HOWEVER: If you are found requiring Paypal fees, and this requirement puts your prices over the price caps, it will *also* be treated as a price cap violation.

  • First time: After the first time you have added additional Paypal fees, a reminder will be issued.
  • Second time: After the second time you have added additional Paypal fees, a second reminder will be issued.
  • Third time: After the third time you have added additional Paypal fees, a warning will be issued.
  • Fourth time: After the fourth time you have added additional Paypal fees, a second warning will be issued. In addition, you will be banned from the swaps sections for a one month period of time.
  • Fifth time: After the fifth time you have added additional Paypal fees, a third warning will be issued. In addition, you will be banned from the swaps sections for a six-month period of time.
  • Six time: After the sixth time you have added additional Paypal fees, you will be permanently banned from swapping.

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Clarification: Sellers requiring/requesting that buyers must send the money as a gift or personal payment (which forces the fees on the buyer) is equivalent to requiring/requesting a surcharge. If buyers wish to do so, it is their option, though it will eliminate their ability to seek their money back from Paypal should the sale go poorly.

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